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San Bruno blast ruling goes against PG&E

San Francisco Chronicle -- Judge Steven Dylina of San Mateo County Superior Court did not publicly release the tentative ruling, but attorneys who viewed it said he had rejected PG&E's attempt to be exempted from punitive damages in lawsuits filed by more than 350 people in connection with the September 2010 disaster.

PG&E has admitted negligence in the explosion of a high-pressure natural gas line, which killed eight people and destroyed 38 homes, and has sought to compensate victims for their losses. But the prospect of a jury awarding larger punitive damages, which are designed as a deterrent, would give the plaintiffs leverage in settlement talks.

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Submitted Oct 30, 2012 By: NOTSOGRN

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treehood Champion Author San Diego Posts:2,049 Points:397,735 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Oct 31, 2012 12:37:11 PM Ignore treehood Report Abuse Punitive Damages. The concept is correct, to punish purposeful wrong behavior and deter others from also doing things harmful to society in general. However PD goes astray when it is awarded to the plaintiffs. It should more properly go to society in general through federal, state and local government.
LetemEatCake Champion Author Oklahoma City Posts:5,596 Points:1,206,355 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: Oct 31, 2012 11:32:15 AM Ignore LetemEatCake Report Abuse Interesting article, Thanks!
K9LO Champion Author North Dakota Posts:2,690 Points:544,955 Joined:Nov 2010	Message Posted: Oct 31, 2012 10:19:58 AM Ignore K9LO Report Abuse I agree with tomok!!! San Bruno blast ruling goes against PG&E, no pipeline maintenance and they lose! The people with damages will win, don't let it go any other way. Any legal costs will be passed onto PG&E customers. Whatever the size or shape of the vehicle, Produce and ‘Drive’ vehicles with high MPG, are very safe, reliable, have a ‘reasonable’ cost and a good ‘value’ for the money. The price of fuel at the pump is too high! XII/XXII/MMXII!
tomok Champion Author Portland Posts:33,047 Points:2,346,485 Joined:Aug 2006	Message Posted: Oct 31, 2012 3:25:55 AM Ignore tomok Report Abuse San Bruno blast ruling goes against PG&E, no pipeline maintenance and they lose! The people with damages will win, don't let it go any other way. Any legal costs will be passed onto PG&E customers. Whatever the size or shape of the vehicle, Produce and ‘Drive’ vehicles with high MPG, are very safe, reliable, have a ‘reasonable’ cost and a good ‘value’ for the money. The price of fuel at the pump is too high! XII/XXII/MMXII!
SnakeW Champion Author North Carolina Posts:21,343 Points:2,390,475 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: Oct 31, 2012 12:07:48 AM Ignore SnakeW Report Abuse We'll be paying for it anyway.
1fulltank Champion Author Buffalo Posts:7,908 Points:1,545,285 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Oct 31, 2012 12:07:19 AM Ignore 1fulltank Report Abuse Punitive damages are awarded to deter future negligence. Negligence has not been adequately proven in this case. Unfortunate accident.
boatfloyd Champion Author Jacksonville Posts:1,723 Points:388,950 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Oct 31, 2012 12:04:52 AM Ignore boatfloyd Report Abuse Good Call
rawdog1313 Champion Author Lexington Posts:3,304 Points:1,643,780 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Oct 31, 2012 12:04:40 AM Ignore rawdog1313 Report Abuse The should be held accountable!
rahcat Champion Author Grand Rapids Posts:2,473 Points:663,925 Joined:Jan 2010	Message Posted: Oct 31, 2012 12:02:40 AM Ignore rahcat Report Abuse Shakespear: Henry VI part 2 "The first thing we do, lets kill all the lawyers".
mcmonsta Champion Author Honolulu Posts:3,232 Points:819,520 Joined:Sep 2009	Message Posted: Oct 30, 2012 11:54:35 PM Ignore mcmonsta Report Abuse admit your wrong and you can pay the price...but what's the price of humanlife?
bonzoonfmb Champion Author Florida Posts:1,787 Points:645,560 Joined:Feb 2010	Message Posted: Oct 30, 2012 11:53:22 PM Ignore bonzoonfmb Report Abuse PG&E has admitted negligence and are going to compensate the victims - now it is time for the lawyers to do battle.
bullseye100 Champion Author New Jersey Posts:2,429 Points:585,180 Joined:Aug 2011	Message Posted: Oct 30, 2012 11:52:23 PM Ignore bullseye100 Report Abuse I hope the victims get what they deserve.
zantor Veteran Author San Bernardino Posts:258 Points:53,025 Joined:Jul 2012	Message Posted: Oct 30, 2012 11:51:29 PM Ignore zantor Report Abuse I speculate the problem started with a line worker who was pressured by a low level manager who was pressured by a manager just above him who was pressured by a manager above him. I speculate that nothing was written or officially stated or written-- just implied, i.e. get those numbers down (or up). This is typical in business.
NAVYHM All-Star Author Cleveland Posts:761 Points:1,386,455 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Oct 30, 2012 11:49:15 PM Ignore NAVYHM Report Abuse NORMAL CORPORATE GREEDY TACTIC'S... NEXT WILL COME THE QUICK, SIGN HERE, ITS OK I'M A LAWYER CRAP... AND LETS NOT FORGET THE QUICK OUT OF COURT SETTLEMENT OFFERS... LOST OF LIVES, HOMES & BELONGINGS= $25,000 OR LESS TOO BIG CORPORATE COMPANY'S...
GAS1251 Champion Author Texas Posts:5,153 Points:1,627,205 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Oct 30, 2012 11:44:17 PM Ignore GAS1251 Report Abuse DustyHorse- these costs end up getting passed along in higher prices.
postcard9 All-Star Author Massachusetts Posts:883 Points:515,445 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Oct 30, 2012 11:41:09 PM Ignore postcard9 Report Abuse Tough deal.
abcdMA Champion Author Worcester Posts:7,932 Points:1,576,930 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Oct 30, 2012 11:38:35 PM Ignore abcdMA Report Abuse Interesting
GAS1251 Champion Author Texas Posts:5,153 Points:1,627,205 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Oct 30, 2012 11:36:00 PM Ignore GAS1251 Report Abuse They need to temper the punative damages. PG&E should pay fair compensation but outrageous punative damages encourage frivilous lawsuits.
OGW Champion Author London Posts:5,329 Points:1,532,975 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Oct 30, 2012 11:35:14 PM Ignore OGW Report Abuse Lawyers go for the biggest settlement they can get and usually claim a percentage for their fee so bigger is better to them but settlements should be fair to those damaged and cover all their real loses but not a lottery type win like the powerball.
DustyHorse Champion Author Virginia Posts:6,090 Points:1,392,330 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Oct 30, 2012 11:30:50 PM Ignore DustyHorse Report Abuse And this affects gas prices how?
FlyNFool Champion Author South Carolina Posts:8,249 Points:1,686,175 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Oct 30, 2012 11:30:42 PM Ignore FlyNFool Report Abuse ok
libertyut Champion Author Utah Posts:1,350 Points:291,625 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Oct 30, 2012 11:29:35 PM Ignore libertyut Report Abuse God Bless
LetemEatCake Champion Author Oklahoma City Posts:5,596 Points:1,206,355 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: Oct 30, 2012 11:26:46 PM Ignore LetemEatCake Report Abuse What is a family member's life worth? Is there a price? Best wishes and blessings to the families.
TxMtb Champion Author Ohio Posts:1,540 Points:344,930 Joined:Feb 2012	Message Posted: Oct 30, 2012 11:24:14 PM Ignore TxMtb Report Abuse They need to pay up for the mistake, cost of doing business in an unsafe manner, as with BP.
gd83goldwinger Champion Author South Bend Posts:1,428 Points:504,980 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Oct 30, 2012 11:22:34 PM Ignore gd83goldwinger Report Abuse Best of wishes to the families.
jl1rp Champion Author New Hampshire Posts:1,818 Points:358,325 Joined:May 2012	Message Posted: Oct 30, 2012 11:22:16 PM Ignore jl1rp Report Abuse wow
Dodge_Me Champion Author Atlanta Posts:2,214 Points:556,980 Joined:Mar 2006	Message Posted: Oct 30, 2012 11:21:02 PM Ignore Dodge_Me Report Abuse Best wishes to the families
mstearno Champion Author Dayton Posts:8,071 Points:1,732,210 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: Oct 30, 2012 11:17:00 PM Ignore mstearno Report Abuse who cares
Skimo2012 Rookie Author Cleveland Posts:85 Points:101,610 Joined:Jun 2012	Message Posted: Oct 30, 2012 11:15:16 PM Ignore Skimo2012 Report Abuse There is always next time...
diesel8888 Champion Author Salt Lake City Posts:1,197 Points:360,360 Joined:Nov 2011	Message Posted: Oct 30, 2012 11:14:47 PM Ignore diesel8888 Report Abuse Ok
gumbyrex Champion Author Fresno Posts:3,306 Points:760,265 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Oct 30, 2012 11:14:29 PM Ignore gumbyrex Report Abuse A just decision. PG&E must pay for their mistake.
bvrbill Champion Author Eugene Posts:3,223 Points:519,600 Joined:Jul 2011	Message Posted: Oct 30, 2012 11:13:55 PM Ignore bvrbill Report Abuse PG&E should pay a fair amount. Litigation is not the lottery.
serrog Champion Author Nova Scotia Posts:5,569 Points:1,513,105 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Oct 30, 2012 11:10:43 PM Ignore serrog Report Abuse messy
wayoung56 Champion Author Alabama Posts:2,805 Points:819,310 Joined:Oct 2006	Message Posted: Oct 30, 2012 11:06:03 PM Ignore wayoung56 Report Abuse At least they owned up to it, but they should not be hammered for more than the actual losses...
REKEY Champion Author South Carolina Posts:8,579 Points:1,699,415 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Oct 30, 2012 11:05:13 PM Ignore REKEY Report Abuse Did they expect to win?
SavALot Champion Author Virginia Beach Posts:8,479 Points:1,712,810 Joined:Apr 2005	Message Posted: Oct 30, 2012 11:03:44 PM Ignore SavALot Report Abuse PG&E definitely loses in this deal
s6sputnik Champion Author Austin Posts:6,222 Points:1,308,880 Joined:Jun 2007	Message Posted: Oct 30, 2012 10:56:15 PM Ignore s6sputnik Report Abuse Ok
30mpg80 Champion Author Lexington Posts:10,044 Points:1,488,830 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Oct 30, 2012 10:54:51 PM Ignore 30mpg80 Report Abuse Have to pay for negligence
jad1960 Champion Author Gary Posts:1,550 Points:404,400 Joined:Feb 2012	Message Posted: Oct 30, 2012 10:54:44 PM Ignore jad1960 Report Abuse Lawyers are vampires out for money.
Suzy7Q Champion Author Wisconsin Posts:2,182 Points:370,530 Joined:Apr 2012	Message Posted: Oct 30, 2012 10:52:22 PM Ignore Suzy7Q Report Abuse Lawyers are always the only winners.
bevmill Champion Author Georgia Posts:2,587 Points:601,520 Joined:Apr 2006	Message Posted: Oct 30, 2012 10:51:52 PM Ignore bevmill Report Abuse Oh No you don't say.
Blue48 Champion Author Illinois Posts:7,310 Points:1,638,920 Joined:Feb 2007	Message Posted: Oct 30, 2012 10:51:32 PM Ignore Blue48 Report Abuse SHAME ON YOU PG&E!
KhelbenArunson Champion Author Michigan Posts:4,446 Points:718,615 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Oct 30, 2012 10:40:18 PM Ignore KhelbenArunson Report Abuse good.
tco9436 Champion Author Connecticut Posts:1,777 Points:723,250 Joined:Mar 2010	Message Posted: Oct 30, 2012 10:36:46 PM Ignore tco9436 Report Abuse Uh OH
theschmuck Champion Author Michigan Posts:2,923 Points:1,513,445 Joined:Mar 2007	Message Posted: Oct 30, 2012 10:36:33 PM Ignore theschmuck Report Abuse The courts are hell.
dumba55 Sophomore Author Chicago Posts:142 Points:37,225 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Oct 30, 2012 10:35:58 PM Ignore dumba55 Report Abuse what!
Lbro Champion Author Denver Posts:1,039 Points:442,225 Joined:Jan 2004	Message Posted: Oct 30, 2012 10:34:45 PM Ignore Lbro Report Abuse Well...
mrbee Champion Author Little Rock Posts:3,759 Points:2,466,805 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: Oct 30, 2012 10:34:01 PM Ignore mrbee Report Abuse Lawyers!
Rei2012 Rookie Author Los Angeles Posts:84 Points:46,255 Joined:Oct 2012	Message Posted: Oct 30, 2012 10:33:54 PM Ignore Rei2012 Report Abuse This is a hard lesson for companies like PG&E
us4usa Champion Author Missouri Posts:5,993 Points:1,113,430 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Oct 30, 2012 10:33:33 PM Ignore us4usa Report Abuse So what is the price of ones life or your life???