honda0105

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Tallahassee
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Message Posted: Jul 22, 2012 7:59:15 AM
the taxes are still more wasted than being used in a positive manner, that's the bottom line.
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Gnusman53

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San Diego
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Message Posted: Jul 21, 2012 10:04:27 AM
Actually Honda...personal federal taxes are much lower.... but because the GOP has pushed for the businesses to get away with virtually no taxes, the impact has cause financial hardship that has been shunted to the state, county and local levels and even brought an increase in "fees" (what the GOP used to call taxes before they changed their minds).....
On paper, the corporate tax is about 35 percent. The REAL effective rate for businesses is less than the rate Romney claimed he paid last year.
The US economy boomed decades ago when America had a multi-legged tax system supporting it..... Now, the business legs have virtually disappeared compared to past levels.
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honda0105

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Tallahassee
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Message Posted: Jul 21, 2012 7:09:01 AM
funny how everyone whines about taxes. It's not the taxes (which are the lowest in a long time for most people), but it's how the taxes are spent that creates such a big hole in the Beltway (and other) coffers.
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honda0105

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Tallahassee
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Message Posted: Jul 21, 2012 7:07:45 AM
Gnusman: that wouldn't work b/c the government isn't importing anything per se, so there's no money to be had.
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Gnusman53

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San Diego
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Message Posted: Jul 20, 2012 5:10:01 PM
How about take money from the drop in import costs for foreign oil and move half to maintain and repair roads and bridges...
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Gnusman53

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San Diego
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Message Posted: Jul 20, 2012 5:07:38 PM
It would be nice if the people screaming about CAFE would like to go back to getting less than 10 mpg when they pay more than $4 a gallon....
Personally, I miss my Metro (54mpg highway).... and still waiting for a replacement to come from American car companies.....
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Gnusman53

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San Diego
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Message Posted: Jul 20, 2012 1:40:35 PM
The GOP freeze on CAFE standards put the US decades behind the rest of the world...
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Gnusman53

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San Diego
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Message Posted: Jul 20, 2012 1:39:30 PM
But CAFE has nothing to do with taxes....and much to do with modernizing American carmakers to catch up with the rest of the world..
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Gnusman53

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San Diego
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Message Posted: Jul 20, 2012 1:37:32 PM
Seems the 1 percenters claimed they were taxed enough already decades ago... and pushed the taxes all onto the middle class and every one else...
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VanIsleLes

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British Columbia
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Message Posted: Jul 20, 2012 2:33:37 AM
gotta keep them safe
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wshutton

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Los Angeles
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Message Posted: Jul 19, 2012 11:34:38 PM
K
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skybiker

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South Carolina
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Message Posted: Jul 19, 2012 9:33:12 PM
Taxed Enough Already!!!
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jbrad4

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Dallas
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Message Posted: Jul 19, 2012 3:57:09 PM
No, we don't need to ease up on CAFE requirements.
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gas_too_high

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Columbus
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Message Posted: Jul 19, 2012 3:28:09 PM
CAFE and it's fleetwide standards were always the wrong approach. A much more sensible approach would be to evaluate individual car models, and heavily tax those models that exceed desired MPG thresholds.
But instead of a visible tax that consumers can see, we get an invisible tax on car companies. In the end, consumers pay the tax, either way. But consumers are not incented to change their behavior.
GTH
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cricket48750

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Michigan
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Message Posted: Jul 19, 2012 3:21:51 PM
Why can't they find a better way to construct roads that won't fall apart in a year's time? I mean - really?
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Gnusman53

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San Diego
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Message Posted: Jul 19, 2012 3:15:54 PM
Dynamouse...when you said "this...." were you looking in the mirror???? (grin)
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Gnusman53

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San Diego
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Message Posted: Jul 19, 2012 3:13:38 PM
Seems Dacofa's first name starts with AKA (grin)...
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Tomeboy

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Twin Cities
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Message Posted: Jul 19, 2012 1:59:20 PM
Did you log onto the east coast to edit your post?
Original post: 12:46:07 PM
Edited post: 1:53:06 PM EST
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TXryder

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Texas
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Message Posted: Jul 19, 2012 1:46:07 PM
ok thanks for posting
[Edited by: TXryder at 7/19/2012 1:53:06 PM EST]
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Tomeboy

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Twin Cities
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Message Posted: Jul 19, 2012 1:41:53 PM
Presumably, no one would call President George W. Bush unfriendly to the oil industry. Yet the price of gasoline rose steadily during most of his administration. In February 2001, just after Mr. Bush took office, the average price of regular gasoline was $1.45 a gallon. By June 2008, that price had risen to $4.05. Still think presidents and oil-friendly policies can determine oil prices? It’s true that by the end of the Bush presidency, prices had fallen back to $1.69, as oil prices plummeted with the rest of the global economy. But I think we can all agree that a global financial crisis is too high a price to pay for cheap gasoline.
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rbrowdersr

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Detroit
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Message Posted: Jul 19, 2012 1:16:46 PM
No, keep them on-going.
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Ken2OD

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Grand Rapids
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Message Posted: Jul 19, 2012 1:10:15 PM
NO! Michigan highways are the PITS!
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Gascapade

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Fort Worth
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Message Posted: Jul 19, 2012 1:09:42 PM
Dynamouse, ROTFLMAO, Before Obama, gas was at $1.68/gal because we were at the brink on an economic abyss, engineered by eight years of an utterly incompetent Repuplican anministration...
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naiiawah

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Boise
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Message Posted: Jul 19, 2012 1:07:25 PM
no
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ARCO

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Pittsburgh
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Message Posted: Jul 19, 2012 1:04:59 PM
ON EVERY TAX IT DOES
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dacofa

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Nevada
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Message Posted: Jul 19, 2012 1:03:42 PM
News organizations, aka liberal butt cheeks that know nothing and just want to sell copy.
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pachukdog1

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Pensacola
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Message Posted: Jul 19, 2012 1:03:35 PM
yep
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Gascapade

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Fort Worth
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Message Posted: Jul 19, 2012 1:02:56 PM
Fund it by streamlining the huge waste in military industrial complex programs.....
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firechief

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New York
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Message Posted: Jul 19, 2012 1:02:54 PM
ugh
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dynamouse

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Michigan
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Message Posted: Jul 19, 2012 1:02:34 PM
Before obama gas was at$1.68,obama wants gas at $5-6 a gal,he stopped the pipe line ,held up drilling permits in the gulf ,wasted tax money on green technology,gave tax payer money to Brazil to drill and told them the USA would be one of there best customers,this CLOWN has to go.
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papou

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Tampa
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Message Posted: Jul 19, 2012 1:02:22 PM
money goes someplace else ,not were its intended.
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JoeKR

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New Jersey
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Message Posted: Jul 19, 2012 1:00:18 PM
We must look at the rationale given for imposing any tax, then be watchful that this is the only use of the funds raised. That Fed taxes haven't been raised in x amount of years I meaningless. The tax act itself should include the mechanism for generating enough money of the intended purpose.
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grammamNV

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Nevada
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Message Posted: Jul 19, 2012 12:59:56 PM
wait 'til november
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Tekkie

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Philadelphia
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Message Posted: Jul 19, 2012 12:59:05 PM
Obozo flip flopping.
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gasper

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Edmonton
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Message Posted: Jul 19, 2012 12:56:23 PM
I guess its just a way for politicians to say yes the gas tax is fixing roads for you.
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mrinmoyd

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Illinois
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Message Posted: Jul 19, 2012 12:56:18 PM
yes
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vjs3

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Denver
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Message Posted: Jul 19, 2012 12:55:08 PM
Politics....
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mabrams184

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Lexington
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Message Posted: Jul 19, 2012 12:51:45 PM
To get the votes most politicians like to be seen creating new roads, bridges or other infrastructure, but they don,t want to make sure the funding will always be there to keep up that same infrastructure. It just doesn't get them the publicity they crave.
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pper

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Grand Rapids
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Message Posted: Jul 19, 2012 12:50:59 PM
They talk of taxing per mile. With Obama trying to do away with gasoline and push us into electrics gas tax isn't going to work much longer.
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snappytom2

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Corpus Christi
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Message Posted: Jul 19, 2012 12:48:43 PM
Political footballs are never worth the price charged.
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rodzilla123

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San Diego
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Message Posted: Jul 19, 2012 12:45:49 PM
Not in a Congressman best interest. As a Congressman / woman, it is your business to bring home the Bacon each and Every year so you can be seen as making progress for your State or Area and thus get Re-Elected. Remember, the first duty of every Congressman is to Get Re Elected, PERIOD.
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jimmy544

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Boston
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Message Posted: Jul 19, 2012 12:45:35 PM
Now is not the time to ease off the the CAFE standards. Now is the time to reform the taxes that pay for the roads. The truckers do not pay their fair share of road wear and tear. It has been estimated that heavy trucks can cause up to 10,000 times as much wear as a passenger car. Trucks only pay about 3-4 times as much as cars.
decreasing the rate of taxes during fuel spikes and increasing the taxes on dropping costs is one way of helping stabilize fuel prices and it may have some merit. Tolls may be another way of dealing with the problem also. Users must pay but cars pay too much and trucks do not pay enough. Maybe we all need to pay according to weight and miles traveled.
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TRAIN RIDER

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San Bernardino
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Message Posted: Jul 19, 2012 12:45:35 PM
It is always time for the government to ease up on regulations.
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NemoIL

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Illinois
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Message Posted: Jul 19, 2012 12:45:30 PM
Old News.
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bevmill

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Georgia
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Message Posted: Jul 19, 2012 12:44:22 PM
ok
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alaskareed

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Alaska
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Message Posted: Jul 19, 2012 12:43:49 PM
ok
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ultm8opie

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Twin Cities
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Message Posted: Jul 19, 2012 12:42:48 PM
ok
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toxigas

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Oakland
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Message Posted: Jul 19, 2012 12:42:26 PM
Nice bit of logical reasoning there...
... if the only thing that matters is how CAFE standards are tied to infrastructure.
But in the big picture, there is more at stake.
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wang91554

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San Jose
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Message Posted: Jul 19, 2012 12:42:21 PM
politicians have very short views. Don't we know that already?
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slowpoke63

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Louisiana
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Message Posted: Jul 19, 2012 12:42:02 PM
ok
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