The reason people don't bother looking for non ethanol stations anymore is that they are all now E10 stations.

I knew of a couple stations in northern Wisconsin that use to have non ehanol gas. However, they went ethanol cause the farmers wouldn't buy their non ethanol gas anymore.

I believe that ethanol contains 70% of the energy content of gasoline by volume. I'm not sure about the 85% number - possibly by weight? Reference: Wikipedia articles "Ethanol fuel" and "Energy density"

Ethanol actually contains 85% of the BTU content of gasoline - that equates to a 1.5% loss in BTU output, and mileage. The wiki article on Brazilian ethanol has a very good section contrasting the various factors between ethanol and gasoline.

I appreciate the sanity you bring with your posts.

You had great points outlined about EV'S lack of emissions and the price of electric versus gas.

UncleCurt, no I don't think a good economy implies high oil prices. However, given the rules which regulate oil trading as they stand today, I think it's likely that we'll have high oil prices when the economy is good. It's no longer just supply and demand - it's now one of the biggest (if not the biggest?) speculative trading markets in the world.

Excellent post about implications of a "meltdown" but do you think a good economy has to always mean high oil and gas prices?

safety issues on hydrogen is being discussed in: (http://docs.google.com/gview?a=v&q=cache:N6GoScfeA1UJ:www.fire.state.mn.us/Response/FuelCellHydrogenFuelVehicleSafety...hope it helps

You struck gold again! Great post in the Tesla article yesterday about competition for EV and the power grid made to adjust overtime.

That was a wonderful post! In topic "Gore Says Climate Isn’t in Vogue," You are brave standing up to those ignorant posters and reminded them of the facts that Global warming/Climate change is real and sustainable pollution free future without oil dependence is the way to go. Continue the intelligent posting.